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Zitat von Banter_NMBS

Would a solution for the NS - ICE3 issue be to rework it into the China Railways CRH3? It's the same platform, yet manufactured in China. Plus, its official name is the Velaro CN, based on the Velaro platform used by Deutsche Bahn AG, RZD and Spanish National Railways (Renfe). I think that the legal protection on the ICE brand only extends to the brand itself, thus nullifying the approval of DB AG being needed. Secondly, Siemens only has legal claims to parts of the design considering how Chinese joint-ventures work regarding intellectual property. As it stands, Tangshan Railway Vehicles is building the Velaro CN, so there's that.

I understand that for my Dutch friends, seeing the ICE3 drive around with the NS logo would be stellar, but I (personally) would think it's more fun to have another real life high-speed train rather than having to rework it into a fictional ICE-but-not-really-please-don't-sue-DB/Siemens. It's just my two cents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Railways_CRH3
http://i.imgur.com/QXptmuA.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi…ns/2/26/CRH3-CRH380BL.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi…6/68/CRH3_in_Changsha.JPG

[I assume Wikimedia images may be directly linked, based on common licence theories?]

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This has already been discussed at length and proposed by me earlier in this thread. Also, the ICE 3 mod already exists and can easily be adjusted by you with an NS logo and bistro font rather than the current DB logo, for your own personal use. If you choose to add this repaint to the file base, contact the maker of the original mod first.

Yes, it's Mac only. But maybe after some tinkering GIMP or Paint.NET might work just as well. If not I can give it a try for you on pixelmator... replacing colors doesn't take long. But you can also make a new layer with a metal/dirt texture yourself and customize it.

Maybe this will help:

http://www.getpaint.net/doc/latest/RecolorTool.html

and the very obnoxiously dubbed

I still prefer pixelmator though, although that also has its limitations.

Zitat von Estor

The Chinese train is build from Siemens, too. So the rights of the design should be the same.

For your information, here is my original post where I discuss this.

Rather than simply 'repainting' the texture, you can play with the 'replace color' function for the base, which keeps the metal/dirt textures intact. Results vary, but since the original is white, it should not be very difficult. I don't have Paint.NET, so I don't know where the function is. In GIMP it's a bit cumbersome. I use Pixelmator for this function, wherein it is super easy to do.

There is a very long and very heated discussion about the ICE 3 and laws blablabla already, which has been closed by the moderators of this forum. I personally think that, as long as you do not intend to sell it/make money with it, and don't portray DB or the ICE in a negative fashion, there should not be any problem, since the ICE 3 has been modded over and over and over again by a wide variety of people for a wide variety of games, while you could also argue that a 3D model is the equivalent of a picture, blablabla, insert endless arguments and counter arguments here.

Note that German laws probably do apply to everywhere in the EU, since stuff like this is sent to the EU patent office. But I think that the DB has better things to do than hunt down modders for them making fan work of the ICE 3. But then you never know with laws and regulations, since laws and regulations don't apply if you have a lot of money, insert endless philosphical blablabla here. And if they hate you/want to screw you over, they will always find a way to do so, no matter if you adhere to the rules or not. That's just today's society, and the vagueness of the copyright law enables them to do so.

but this is my personal opinion.

And if you are unsure you can always mod one of the ICE knockoffs in China, since those are not ICE, and Chinese don't care about the copyright laws anyway since they copied it (and virtually anything else) themselves. I have posted some examples of the Chinese bullet train in the ICE 3 thread in case you are curious.

Looks nice bastarge, I'm happy to see you starting to repaint.

btw, the DE3 repaint is still coming, but unfortunately I am super busy till Christmas so I won't finish it till then... Probably I will upload it in the beginning of January.

Zitat von Cookiestomper

Been reworking the stadler flirt models for the Veolia trains (Stadler GTW 2/6). First time trying this, so the rework might be a bit sloppy. Here's an Image:
Uploading as soon as the author of the original model gives permission to do so.

The repaint looks great, but are you making the textures slightly transparent? On the picture the light areas look a bit odd...

By the way, NS also ordered Stadler to build Sprinter flirts but unfortunately the nose is a bit different...

P.S.: There is a dutch repaint thread, since this thread (because it is in the Modded Vehicles section) is not the appropriate one to post about repaints...

I have been quite busy and unable to finish the repaint, but I am getting close. I also found some minor discrepancies in the original paintjob, and it has been really hard to find accurate pictures.

ToDo list:

• Tweak window reflectance
• Make UI icons

Probably won't upload it till coming weekend...

Included vehicles:

• DE 3 Silver (Tweaked version with 'non smoking' signs and tweaked class numbers, corrected windows, carriage number)
• DE 3 Green (With dark roof, non smoking signs, carriage number)
• DE 3 Blue (With dark roof, 1st/2nd class, non smoking signs, carriage number, Yellow Banner)

Here is another sneak preview of the almost finished product.

[Blockierte Grafik: http://www.train-fever.net/galerie/userImages/20/988-200325a9-medium.png]

Stuff goes on sale all the time. Perhaps they just want to lure new people that were scared off since the game did not have waypoints etc. Doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad game just because it is on sale... Besides, it's not like 60 euro for a non-functioning game e.g. SimCitySuburb.

Zitat von 2503victor

i did this. but i use this train now and i don't want to loose my map need i to update or not?

@2503victor There is no need to update since oppie has not released a new version of the textures/model, so you can leave it as it is. If you need to reinstall your mods for some reason, it should work, since oppie used the same name for the config file (ns_DE3.lua) I don't foresee any compatibility issues... unless LUA is case sensitive? Back up your RES folder just incase something goes wrong.

@JoopNL Is this an entry for the brick fever mod?

Mir ist grad aufgefallen das die hupe fehlt Sieht sehr gut aus. Jetzt kann ich meinen pendelzug nachbauen in train-fever

Great Oppie! Looking forward to it. I always saw the PlanX in Yellow driving in the distance from the farmhouse...

It also saves me some repainting. Still repainting the DE3 in green and blue, although I will finish in the next few days...

I'll see what I can do, expect them tomorrow. Obviously, the class 111 locomotive is in verkehrsrot. Sometimes it is a special livery version pulling my train but that's not always the case.

Zitat von wohlstandskind

Leider sind auch diese Aufnahmen zu klein und unleserlich.

@wohlstandskind I can make a few pictures if you want. The train I take every day to work is pulled by a 111 class locomotive. What kind of closeups are you looking for exactly? You can PM me for your requests.

Looks very good!, just a very nitpicky comment, but isn't the surface between the two lower lights supposed to be black for the yellow version?

And which colors did you use for your alpha mask in the diffuse image?

What are your next repaint/mod plans?

Yes, it's a 'Signal' that does not do much (and looks very ugly, [insert mod request here]) and you can just click on it when making a line and the train line goes over that track.

Zitat von JoopNL

Take your plan W repaint:

Using the three maps, you can improve it like this:

• If you create a normal map, you can have the ridges on the roof raised, without this being in the model.
• If you paint the roof black (or dark gray) in the normal map alpha channel, the excessive gloss effect on the roof can be removed. (So you get a matt finish like in the shot below.)
• If you paint the windows black (or dark gray) in the regular texture alpha channel, you can add (more) reflectiveness on the windows. (Again like below.)

(Note; the roof ridges in this shot are actually in the model. It won't easily get this good with a normal map, but maybe somewhere in between. It can get very close if you spend more time ont it.)

And it can be a lot more advanced than these three improvements. For good examples open some of the train textures and normal maps included with the game, and compare how they use them. But in my experience so far, even much less advanced versions can make a big improvement.

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Thanks for the detailed information. I already use a 15% cyan and 25% black on the alpha channel for the windows. What combination do you use for the windows?

I'll look into normal maps for the Plan-W later (the original did not have any, so my mod didn't have either); this is not a priority now. There are still some other things that need fixing in the Plan-W repaint (e.g. correct style class numbers for the older carriages). Also I still need to figure out how to adjust the bounding box, so the carriages are closer together.

My upcoming repaint: the DE3 model by oppie.

Sneak peak (still lots to do):

[Blockierte Grafik: http://www.train-fever.net/galerie/userImages/a5/909-a5d9b67a-medium.png]

Planned versions:

• Blue (see above)
• Green (with darker roof)

Will hopefully finish before the beginning of next week.

UPDATE 13 November 2014

Oppie has released a new version with the correct LUA script. It should work now.

I found out that oppie's DE'3 download lacks the correct LUA script, and without it, the DE 3 model will not appear in game.

I have already told oppie about it but I think I am not the only one that has done so.

Here is a hotfix to get the train in game.

Anyway, to add the required LUA script yourself until oppie has an updated version:

• Extract the DE3 mod in a folder (e.g. desktop), and then go to "Res/Config/Multiple_Unit"
  
• Delete the existing LUA scripts, which are called ns_planT.lua and PlanV.lua
  
• In notepad (or preferably notepad ++) make a new document
  
• Copy and paste the code below in the new file
  

function data()return {    vehicles = {        { name = "vehicle/train/ns_DE3_3.mdl", forward = true },        { name = "vehicle/train/ns_DE3_2.mdl", forward = true },        { name = "vehicle/train/ns_DE3_1.mdl", forward = true },    },    name = _("NS Mat '34 \"DE3\""),    desc = _(    "DE 3 by oppie")}end

5. Save the text file as 'NS_DE3.lua' in the folder mentioned above.
6. Place the "Res" folder and "tfmm.ini" file in a compressed ZIP or RAR folder
7. Use Train Fever Mod manager to enable the mod.

The mod should work correctly now.

IMPORTANT, USE CAUTION!

NOTE: I'm not sure how this affects the Mat 64 mod, it might need reinstalling
NOTE 2: You are manually adding the LUA file to make the DE3 mod work in game. I am not sure how this affects your savegames after you have uninstalled the hotfix and reinstall using oppies updated version.
NOTE 3: This tip is provided without warranty, so use caution.
NOTE 4: If you intend to use the DE3 in your save game permanently, it might be better to wait for oppies fix rather than do it yourself, to ensure compatibility with future versions.