Can anyone explain to me what's the controversy with the ICE train mod? ![]()
what's the controversy with ICE train mod?
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In short: The company doesn't want it.
There are high requirements and a lot of work behind the scenes to get their ok, as far as I know. -
The design of the german ICE train is protected by the Deutsche Bahn AG. This protection is called "Geschmacksmuster"*. Those are categorized in various "classes", one of the protected ones are toys. It's not clear if a potential ICE mod would fall under such a protected class.
* expires after some decades, e.g. the ICE 1 isn't protected anymore.
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So that means we could get an improved version of the already amazing ice 1 mod?
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The design of the german ICE train is protected by the Deutsche Bahn AG. This protection is called "Geschmacksmuster"*. Those are categorized in various "classes", one of the protected ones are toys. It's not clear if a potential ICE mod would fall under such a protected class.
* expires after some decades, e.g. the ICE 1 isn't protected anymore.
Hey guys, thanks for the answer.I've checked "Geschmacksmuster" law. The protection period is 25 year, so I guess the ICE-2 will be out of protection in 2020...
How about the ICE-3 mod that already publishes? What's that about?
One other thing, the train like ICE3 Velaro, The same model also own and operated by different country and companies (Eurostar and in Turkey) just with different livery. Does the law still apply?
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As @Marcolino26 said, it is possible to get a agreement with DB. (ICE3)
The "Geschmacksmuster" counts for the white/red design. But the other Velaros might be protected by Siemens or the other railway companies. -
If you take the laws and regulations word by word, there would be almost no modern mods for TpF. Everything is protected somehow, if not the train itself, then the blueprints or whatever.
So as far as I'm concerned, all of the mods on this site are free of charge, we don't earn any money with these so it should be okay or at least in some gray area. I don't know how seriously DB takes these kind of things but I would be surprised if they would sue anyone because of a free mod. -
Very seriously.
That‘s why there are only a few ICEs available. -
Well~ I presume that you all live in Germany or other European countries so you guys might be subject to that law if DB decides to sue you but I am not. They haven't even registered their company trademark in my country though... so I guess I will be fine if I make those trains?

It seems for me the problem is it's more likely that the platforms that I decided to upload those mods would take them down because of their demands.
I don't know...
thanks to you guys anyways! I am really appreciated for your response. -
It seems for me the problem is it's more likely that the platforms that I decided to upload those mods would take them down because of their demands.Already since last year there is a Mod of the BR 407/Velaro D in the Steam Workshop, that uses the ICE-color-scheme, even though it isn't based on the real model, it's just a repaint of the russian Velaro train. So it seems, that neither Steam nor the DB care too much about it.