Beiträge von Cadoras

Another preview:

Exactly that one. I know there's some discussion on this - mainly on the Drehscheibe HiFo - if it's the real deal.
There's one other soundbite of an old V188 driving by, who almost all agree is the real deal - and that one sounds
quite like that sound so I tend to agree that that MP3 is correct.

And furthermore: it sounds good.

I've considered it, but chose to leave that distinction aside for the time being. I had planned such a thing
for a possible future update. Even more so, because I may have found a soundfile of the original V188. But
for that I need a specialist.

No worry mate, I always got something to do.
That being said, next project - was almost finished - repaint pack of the Aboag D3
made by @Pufferzone . A "Vorgeschmack":

And there it is!

With some tongue in the cheek artwork this time...

Zitat von Licaon

Lustigerweise wird aber WWI von den Meisten nicht als so böse empfunden

That's because of:

- It's even longer ago.
- The theater of war was far more centralized on set battlefields
- Far less civilian casualties - most of them died of the Spanish Flu
- It was a war between European nations to make out who was the undisputed superpower
- the atrocities of WWI pale in comparison to that of WWII

The image of WWII is that there are clear opposing sides and a very clear divide of what
people consider "good" or "evil". Or better said: people find it easier to identify with the
sentiment of that war. Another reason for this is that difference in culture and technology
is far less poignant: there are almost less differences between WWI and 1870 then between
WWI & WWII - especially if one would consider the causes of war and the main objectives.

There will always be people who don't like military themed mods. Some say it isn't relevant to the game or it touches on subjects
that aren't particularly welcome to the game.

Utter nonsense.

This is the thing with mods: no one is forced to download those kinds of mods. That's the beauty of it. You can completely create
any kind of composition you like.

Of course, I do understand that certain symbols are out of the question - especially (ironically) in a mainly German (Germanspeaking)
community. Nor would it be tasteful to use those kinds of mods to glorify the material, period or certain aspects of it. There's where
I draw the line. Make the model, make the skins - but leave out the swastika's or other equally offending symbols - and for godsake
leave out any ideology you may carry with it.

Why this soliloquy?

I want to stamp out any kind of discussion before it's gonna take place. I truly respect anyone's opinion, even if it's f*cked up .
But these discussions have raged on almost every modding forum, trainsimfora not exempted. God knows I've been part of those
discussions many times. All I can say is: have faith in the moderators and if you truly feel offended by material - report it to the
moderators and await their point of view. If they concur, they'll contact the poster, if they do not: you'll just have to accept that
your view is not (widely) shared among the community.

The original pack will contain all verified liveries. Maybe at a later stage some fictional liveries can be made of course.

Most sources agree that the "Walli" was the only time the D311's recieved camo. It may be that during the war some other makeshift camo may be applied
once or twice, but no evidence or testimony on that point exists. That being said: after thet war, the D311.04 was found at a scrapyard in Amsterdam. That
locomotive was then designated "NS L5" but was never put into service. The young DB bought that locomotive back in 1951 and made that one into the V188 002.
It was rumoured however, that when they saw that locomotive it was not Wehrmachtgrau, but some kind of brown/green color, no camo however. But again: no
evidence.

Furthermore, there is no evidence that the V188 ever pulled the Leopold. Don't forget that only 4 D311's were built. Two more were destroyed while being
produced. That made the D311 an very rare locomotive. The D311's were specifically designed for the big guns Dora and Gustav - the Leopold could easily
be towed by a "normal" Kriegslok, which would be preferable anyway: not every occupied country in that period had an infastructure that gave support for
dieselpowered trains - but every country had support for steamers.

I can almost certainly conclude why they chose to make this set:

When done accurately, Lima should've made a enormous railwaygun that needed two parallel railway tracks to move. In that same set two D311's should
be present that need to pull that gun in utter synchronicity. That ain't gonna work now is it? But that means no "Hersteller" could ever make a set with
the D311 in it's designed role. So, what Lima did is take some artistic license and made this set. And right they were to do so, it looks awesome.

UPDATE:

One source (http://www.e94114.de/Eisenbahn…opold.htm#Eisenbahndienst) points out:

"An den Einsatzort kamen die Gerätschaften meist mit Lokomotiven der Baureihe 50 ÜK. (Übergangskriegslok) Im späteren Kriegsverlauf wurden auch 42er und 52er
eingesetzt. Eine Diesellokomotive oder kleinere Dampflokomotive waren für den Verschub zuständig. Die kleinen Dampflokomotiven waren fast nur „Beutelokomotiven“
der Region. Die Diesellokomotiven waren die V20, V36, D311/V188."

So... Anyone care to model the Leopold?

UPDATE (2):

That same source however says the following about the Lima-set:

"Nicht das erste Mal hat die Firma Lima Modelle der Deutschen Wehrmacht im Programm gehabt. Im Katalog 1978/1979 wurde ein "Kanonenwagen" vorgestellt. Diese entsprach
jedoch laut Bild eher der langen Bruno, wenn man viel Phantasie besaß. 1979/1980 wurde schließlich ein "Kanonenwagen", das Geschütz K5 Leopold vorgestellt. Betitelt wurde
das Geschütz als Eisenbahngeschütz K5 "schlanke Emma"/"Leopold"/"Anzio Annie". (daher auch die fehlende Energiezentrale, wenn man ein Denkmal zum Vorbild nimmt, das
nicht vollständig ist...) Im Neuheitenprospekt 1982/1983 wurde ein Militärzug vorgestellt: Diesellokomotive 288 in Tarnlackierung. Ein voller Witz. Nicht nur die Bezeichnungen,
auch die Phantasielackierung, die diese Lokomotive sowie die Geschütze nie getragen haben. Der Schriftzug "Leopold" ist ebenso der Phantasie entsprungen. Diese Geschütze
erhielten zwar den Namen, wurden jedoch nie so lackiert."

Release will probably be tomorrow...

I just discovered I saved the previews in low quality. I've changed all the previews of the V188 in the previous posts. So, if you were thinking - "that looks quite pixelated"
or "the color seems somewhat off"- dass stimmt! New high quality previews are supplied. To summarize I'll attach 'm all to this post as well.

And the last two, and the set made complete:

And now a version less martial, the first V188, or perhaps better put: the first D311 to enter into post WWII
civilian service under banner of the DB. The former Wehrmachtslok D311.03 (a/b) was luckily still present
in Nürnberg after war. After 3 years lingering at the Ausbesserungswerk the DB decided to make use of it once
again and repaired (or better said restored) the locomotive during 1948/1949. Restored before the modernising
of the early fifties, the V188 001 was given green livery (Tannengrün) without the DB-keks. The sister locomotive
(V188 002) was restored two years later and immediately got the wellknown "Altrot" livery with the DB keks.

The locomotive:

That being said: as such it will not be possible to make the Dora ingame as a working train/waggon. It ran on two tracks.
It would need two parallel running locomotives. Look at this model:

Maybe as an asset.

I've come to the conclusion I've made an unwitting mistake. I've colored the "Walli" according to the Lima modeltrain, but I had my doubts
about the accuracy of said colors. The locomotive was employed mainly in transporting the Dora to the Crimean front to take part in the Siege
of Sevastopol. The gun was so big, it had needed two parallel tracks. On the way from Germany many tracks had to be layed down, enforced or
changed to accomodate the passage of the gun.

The two trains needed for the Dora were delivered in Wehrmacht Grau in december 1941. And left very soon after for the Ukrain. To give an idea
how it long it took: they arrived in april 1942...

When it arrived they gave it an makeshift camo with chalk paint, so it could be easily be removed when necessary. Considering the theater and
period, we have to conclude that it would be a "Wintertarn". As such, a green main color would be highly unlikely. Even more so because the big
ass gun would remain Wehrmacht Grau for its entire existence. Furthermore, the green color knows no proof whatsoever. That being said, no
other camo's then the Walli are known to have exist and would be unlikely.

And last but not least, the designation V188 is not correct at this moment. During the war these locomotives never got a Reichsbahn designation,
that came in 1948/1949.

So, the corrected skin:

If someone would make the Dora, I at least got the suiting livery:

If anyone thinks what on earth this is or if I'm gone bananas: this livery actually existed. It was a makeshift camo which the soldiers applied in the field during the campaign in the Ukrain (that rhymed). Here's some actual pictures:

And a screenie of the front:

Zitat von Franzl

den richtigen grünton

Looks good to me. Not to hard. I always did that one more subtle then one should expect. That green line
easily jumps out when set to crisp.

We know, but come on... You could make a nice entry hole to start with?

Hahahaha. Welcome to the Repaintshed Franzl...

And do a Hello Kitty version while you're at it.